Kevin Chief is Principal of Chief Partnerships Manitoba Inc., and co-founder of the Winnipeg Aboriginal Sport Achievement Centre (WASAC); he brings a commitment to community and leadership development through his dedication to education, training, and employment. Eric compliments Kevin on his ability to work a room, and Kevin discusses his philosophy with politics, and how to reach people who need social services and resources the most. The two chat about the importance of civic engagement, and having conversations with people with different opinions and values. Then, Kevin explains how he's finding his way beyond politics, and capturing what he loved and building it into his life.