On this episode of HBA After Hours, Kevin Klinkenbergjoins host Will Ruder and co-host Keith Sauro for a candid conversation about the complexities of housing development in Kansas City. Kevin is an architect, developer, community leader and host of The Messy City Podcast, and he brings a thoughtful perspective on what it really takes to build more livable, connected communities. From shifting attitudes toward development to practical strategies for revitalizing the urban core, this episode explores how cities like ours can grow with intention. Whether you live in Kansas City or simplycare about strong, sustainable neighborhoods, this is one you will want to hear.