Principal Designer at Adobe, Khoi Vinh, and designer & Hello Mr. founder, Ryan Fitzgibbon, talk to host Tina Essmaker about the role of empathy in design, when the political becomes personal, and using art & design to affect social change.

Principal Designer at Adobe, Khoi Vinh, and designer &amp; Hello Mr. founder, Ryan Fitzgibbon, talk to host Tina Essmaker about the role of empathy in design, when the political becomes personal, and using art &amp; design to affect social change.

Khoi Vinh & Ryan Fitzgibbon - Empathy in design, when the political becomes personal, and using art & design to affect social change

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Khoi Vinh & Ryan Fitzgibbon - Empathy in design, when the political becomes personal, and using art & design to affect social change

Khoi Vinh & Ryan Fitzgibbon - Empathy in design, when the political becomes personal, and using art & design to affect social change