Jill Ellis guided the United States women's national team to back-to-back World Cup victories in 2015 and 2019. In between, she faced significant adversity after a quarterfinal loss at the 2016 Rio Olympics. In this in-depth conversation, Ellis and host Jeff Kassouf dive into specific moments along those journeys — the highs and the lows. They also discuss conversations with other top coaches, including Jurgen Klopp and Mauricio Pochettino, as well as modern tactics and challenges with player management.

Music: "Inspirational Outlook" by https://scottholmesmusic.com/.

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