On this episode Kathy with the INTEGRIS Health Nazih Zuhdi Transplant Institute in Oklahoma City who has been a medical social worker for over two decades. She spent most of that time working with people who have end stage renal disease. Transplant financial coordinator Natasha also joins the conversation. She has been with INTEGRIS Health for about 12 years and with the transplant department for the last five and they discuss the financial side of Kidney transplants.