In this conversation, Jason and Gunnar chop it up about their shared history in the fire service, Gunnar's journey through various career changes, the endless adventures and trials he undertakes, newly married life and the joy and growth in it. They also talk about the loss of Gunnar's father, how he's holding that reality and also taking from it the encouragement to live as big a life as possible. They talk about his love of flying and his current endeavor to become a commercial pilot, the love of travel in general, and close on the idea that you have to show up in life curious, open, and willing to try. 

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