Kim Deitch, a second-generation illustrator, has been at it since he start selling strips (and dope) to The East Village Other in 1967. His new book, How I Make Comics, is full of interlocking comics connected by comics about making comics, with Kim and his wife Pamela Butler as characters in those comics as what started off as a gag title became something much more — beginning with a too-good-to-check yarn about Kim's boyhood encounter with Donald Trump on the Howdy Doody Show and with fiction and truth only getting stranger from there. 

Harry Siegel visited Kim and Pam in their studio on the Upper East Side for an in-depth conversation about the book, their partnership, his turn toward the autobiographical and the importance of a good yarn.