On today's episode my guest is Kimberly Stover. Kimberly works in the space of losing religion recovery. She describes this process as as having three phases: Reflect, Recover then Rise. Kimberly and I discuss religious trauma syndrome, the #EmptyThePews movement, how narcissism relates to Evangelicalism and rising up out of recovery. On Kimberly's site she has resources for those in the process of losing their religion. If you are in the process of losing your religion, you don't have to do it alone. Reach out to Kimberly and the resources she has available. Links: kimberlystover.com facebook.com/realkimberlystover twitter.com/realkimstover instagram.com/kimberly_stover_writer Kimberly's book recommendation: Leaving the Fold: A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving Their Religion by Dr. Marlene Winell https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933993235/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1933993235&linkCode=as2&tag=kimberlystove-20&linkId=a6f03da1054ca490dcb844408377e3e0 Attribution: "Waves" track written and produced by Makaih Beats http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Makaih_Beats Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/