In episode 4, host Lee Shaner talks with Kyle Thomas a.k.a. King Tuff. Tuff talks about his new record The Other, being the only guy in a staff of women at a thrift store, playing in a band with J Mascis, and his “pet” raccoons. Highlights: 3:30 Tuff talks early musical influences 10:25 Tuff talks about his musical projects before King Tuff and playing with J Mascis 17:29 Tuff talks about touring with Matt & Kim and gaining a larger following 20:48 Tuff talks about recording with the now popular Tascam 388 tape recorder 24:00 Tuff talks about his mystical signing with the Sub Pop record label 26:55 Tuff talks about early touring days and partying 28:00 Tuff talks living in Laurel Canyon at a place Father John Misty stayed at 32:00 Tuff talks about creating his new album The Other 41:00 Credits and headphone discount code