The UPLift with Tzedek: Real Talk for Real Change

Kinship Over Coffee: Brewing Hope at Deep Time AVL


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What if your morning coffee could change lives?

In this episode of The UPLift, we sit down with the Deep Time AVL team to explore how unfiltered engagement, meaningful employment, and fierce collaboration are reshaping reentry in Asheville—one cup at a time. 

At Deep Time, coffee becomes the unlikely bridge between prison and possibility. Operating as a coffee roastery and café run with, by, and for people impacted by incarceration, Deep Time blends social enterprise rigor with trauma-informed care and wraparound support. The aim isn’t temporary relief. It’s dignity. It’s skill-building. It’s reducing recidivism by strengthening the social determinants of freedom: housing, work, belonging, and community. 

The result? Real connection. Real trust. Real transformation.

Deep Time isn’t charity. It’s kinship with a paycheck. And this conversation is a proven playbook for second-chance hiring and community-based recovery.

About Dustin: Rev. Dustin M. Mailman is a friend of those whom the so-called empire deems disinherited. As the Founding Pastor of Deep Time, he sits at the intersection of care, grassroots organizing, and solidarity-based approaches to faith formation. He is a graduate of Appalachian State University and Emory University, and is an Elder in Full Connection in the United Methodist Church.

About Marisa: Marisa Johnson is a dedicated Sojourner at Deep Time Coffee, a community she gratefully calls both a workplace and a family. After overcoming significant life challenges, including rebuilding her life following a 10-year period of incarceration, Marisa has embraced Deep Time as a meaningful place of stability, growth, and purpose. Grounded in faith and resilience, she is committed to personal development and to the continued journey of transformation ahead. Marisa looks optimistically toward her growth and transformation through God and Deep Time.

About Shilone: Shilone Knight is the Head Barista at Deep Time. He is fascinated with the work and healing he’s found at Deep Time. He is passionate about leading other Sojourners by example, so everyone has a shot at being in community. 

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We'll see you same time, same place next month. Until then, peace.

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The UPLift with Tzedek: Real Talk for Real ChangeBy Tzedek Social Justice Fund