For the first podcast of 2026, Lisa opens the conversation with honesty about how she’s feeling. Who do we turn to when the events of the world feel heavy? How do we face uncertainty — in our lives and in the broader world? 

Lisa and Trudy discuss their responsibilities as crones and the wisdom of age — crones don’t avert their eyes. They act on their intuition and face the world as it is. Tied with a knot. 

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• (01:18) - Feeling heavy

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin 

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen