<a href="https://www.kellyjoyladd.com/">Kelly Joy Ladd</a> and Rick Rubin.



<a href="https://www.pexels.com/photo/black-corded-headphones-with-colorful-books-in-between-5939401/">Photo by Stas Knop</a>.

Kelly Joy Ladd and Rick Rubin. Photo by Stas Knop.

<a href="https://www.kellyjoyladd.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kelly Joy Ladd</a> and Rick Rubin.



<a href="https://www.pexels.com/photo/black-corded-headphones-with-colorful-books-in-between-5939401/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Photo by Stas Knop</a>.

Know Thyself

Bob Kodzis and Nick Georgoudiou share advice, stories, and their humor five days a week in short conversations. Pick them up whenever you have a chance. Safe to listen to with the kiddos too!

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