John Carl Baker, frequent Jacobin contributor and a fellow with anti-nuclear think tank The Ploughshares Fund in Washington, DC joins host Andre Goulet to talk about the surprising possibility of peace in a dangerous geopolitical moment.

Plus, what insights Daniel Ellsberg’s new book ‘The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner' can give us about recent historic events on the Korean peninsula and why we should expect the unexpected at the upcoming Trump/Kim Jong-un summit.

This conversation was recorded on May 2nd, 2018.

Music on this episode, 'Let It Begin' is from Korean indie rock band Say Sue Me. Find their new album 'Where We Were Together' on Bandcamp.

Mastered by Chris Hernandez at Studio Petit Palais in Montreal.