This episode, I sit down with the incomparable Kristene DiMarco. Kristene is a seasoned worship leader, singer/songwriter, Bethel Music recording artist and huge Star Wars fan. She joins me to talk about gleanings over two and half decades of leading worship, what it's like for worship leaders entering their 40's (like the two of us), worship hot takes, and what *could have been* for Star Wars - Episode 9.

I had such a great time hanging out with Kristene and just getting to chat about whatever we wanted to. If you're down for more conversations like this, please subscribe! This is where the fun begins!

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