We also had the pleasure of having an interview with Carl Bourgeois. He is one of the key figures within the Faculty of Architecture and has experienced the integration from start to finish. Carl was able to answer our questions from his experience as an ex-vice-dean. In this way, he has been able to present a number of fascinating answers that create a better picture of his vision on education and how architecture education works.

While he was vice-dean, he was also a lecturer. In this way he saw how things were going in practice and not only through policy. "I don't believe in an ideal educational system," Carl says. He adds: "You learn to design by yourself and as a school, you can only support that process."He says that as a vice-dean he mainly had to mediate. So above all listening to all partners, discussing and negotiating. "I believe that the policy comes from others, or else, it has to come from others. That's why I find an initiative like 1030c equally valuable alongside all the formal organizations."

During the interview, we mentioned the WTC24 project. WTC24 was a project of reflection, discussions and reinventing architecture education. We also questioned his opinion on the upcoming Pacheco building, the new future base of the campus Brussels.

If you want to learn more about Carl's opinion in differing viewpoints, we definitely recommend listening to the interview below. And in addition, if you want to get more info specifically about the WTC24 project, you can always check out the book he has co-authored, in this link. https://issuu.com/faculteitarchitectuursintlucas/docs/wtc_tower_teachings