n this conversation, Allan Jhagroo interviews Kurt Swanson, a transplant nephrologist, about his journey through medicine. They discuss Kurt's upbringing in Appleton, Wisconsin, the influence of his physician parents, and his experiences in high school and college that shaped his interest in medicine. Kurt shares insights from his medical school journey, the challenges of residency, and the importance of mentorship. He reflects on the balance between family life and a demanding medical career, emphasizing the significance of empathy and communication in patient care. The conversation concludes with advice for future physicians on pursuing their passions and the importance of being likable in the medical field.