In episode 4, Alessandra sits down with poet Kyla Jamieson to discuss poetry, disability, and love as a verb. The pair dive into questions of love, joy and community care, discuss the ocean a site of awe and fear, and contemplate how disability might create intimacy with the earth. Kyla shares poetry from her lauded poetry collection BODY COUNT, which was CBC Best Poetry Book of the Year in 2020. 

“I truly feel like language is a miracle,” Kyla offers, “and poetry is a celebration of that miracle. What poets do is always rooted in love, because that love of language is always present.”