Toronto Raptors All-Star Kyle Lowry & Charlotte Hornets big man Spencer Hawes join JJ this week on The Vertical Podcast. Kyle and JJ get into the trade that didn't happen and kept Kyle in Toronto. JJ also fills us in on "Skinny" Kyle Lowry and what it means. JJ's former teammate and current Hornets big man Spencer Hawes talks with JJ about trade deadline stories and how it affected them in their career. Spencer and JJ give some of their Oscar picks in this week's 4 on 4.

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