Andre talks with Steven on the importance of putting historic events in perspective and why having conversations is the ultimate goal.

International speaker and coach Andre Norman joins Stanford researcher Steven Crane on "How to Have Difficult Conversations About Race," a weekly conversation touching on the Black Lives Matter movement and issues of racial equity. More information on the show's hosts can be found at stevencrane.me and andrenorman.com. To join Steven's social justice mailing list, visit https://scrane.link/SJList

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