In this segment, Steven and Andre continue the discussion on what it means to be a Black American.

International speaker and coach Andre Norman joins Stanford researcher Steven Crane on "How to Have Difficult Conversations About Race," a weekly conversation touching on the Black Lives Matter movement and issues of racial equity. More information on the show's hosts can be found at stevencrane.me and andrenorman.com. To join Steven's social justice mailing list, visit https://scrane.link/SJList