On this bonus edition of the Churros y Tácticas podcast, two wounded men -- one less wounded than the other -- got together for some therapy. Topics discussed:

- The city of Madrid having its powers zapped: Both teams looking like shadows of themselves

- Atletico looking terrified against Qarabag

- The internal dynamic of the locker-room

- Cristiano Ronaldo's post-game comments

- Trust issues that Valverde and Zidane both seem to have

- November schedule for Barca and Real Madrid

- Diego's silver linings from the trip to Olympiakos

- And a ton more

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