This episode's guest, Arne van Oosterom is the founder of Future Skills Academy, renowned design thinker and facilitator. A self-described school dropout with dyslexia who never stopped learning, Arne has worked across art, music, theatre, design, and strategy. He sees creativity not as a personality type but as a supported behavior. In this conversation, Arne unpacks how psychological safety enables curiosity and experimentation; why labels (designer, artist, engineer) limit our potential; and how humanity cycles from chaos to order and back. He challenges today’s AI panic, arguing the real risk is platform power concentration — and predicts a shift toward smaller, ecosystem-based communities. The episode lands on radical listening: we won’t share the same experience, but we can start from a respectful “movable middle” to build together.Find out more about Arne's work here:https://futureskills.academyFind out more about David chislett here:https://davidchislett.com