Episode 4 features two women spearheading fundamental shifts in the world of grant-making and philanthropy in San Diego. With a focus on building inclusive and equitable communities, they tackle the idea of white privilege and racism head on as they help to shape philanthropy's approach to equity. In this lively and frank conversation with Nancy Jamison, President and CEO of San Diego Grantmakers, and Macy Olivas, Executive Director of the Patricia and Christopher Weil Family Foundation, we dive deep into the role of philanthropy in movement building and maximizing collective impact.