How did the Statue of Liberty become a symbol for immigration in the United States? What does it stand for today? In this episode we talk with Professor Mae Ngai about the Statue’s history, and how its meaning in the American public mind has changed over time. We also speak with activist Patricia Okoumou, who climbed the pedestal of the Statue one year ago this week, in protest of the Trump Administration's child separation policy. She explains the reasons for her act of civil disobedience.