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"They knew how to conserve, they knew how to budget, they knew how to defend. And it's a biblical place to me. What is a place? Maybe one of the seven Wonders of the World. Even but what is a place that you think is so beautiful and it has such significance to you? I've never been to Petra. And I imagine that I will go one day. If I ever go, I'll probably lose my mind because it's gorgeous."