This episode examines a report from State Auditor Dave Boliek on over $1 billion in lapsed salary dollars and the vacancy crisis facing North Carolina agencies, with discussion about potential job cuts, recruitment, and the impact on public services.

Guest Junior Hulen, statewide chairman of EMPAC, explains how employees can get involved politically, how endorsements and interviews are decided, the plan for boots-on-the-ground organizing in 2026, and the importance of engaging younger and bipartisan members to protect state workers and services.