Lasting Change With Jesus is a weekly podcast for coaches, therapists, pastors, executives, and leaders who want to help people experience change that lasts.

Hosted by Todd Olsen and Mathew Swinson of Metaformation, the show explores Encounter Coaching: an approach that goes beyond teaching people about Jesus and helps them engage with Him directly in the places where fear, shame, false beliefs, and recurring patterns are holding them back.

Some episodes take you inside real coaching sessions. Others break down the method, the questions being asked, and what is happening beneath the surface.

The first episode begins with Mathew himself.

Nine days before recording, he suffered a heart attack while playing basketball, flatlined, and was brought back. Todd coaches him through what happened, what it changed, and what Jesus might be inviting him to see differently.

Lasting Change With Jesus launches 30 September 2026, with new episodes every week. Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode.

Training and certification: meta-formation.com/academy

Book an Encounter Coaching session: meta-formation.com/get-coached