Lawrence Chaney is the reigning champion of Ru Paul's Drag Race UK. They join Rachel and Alice in the studio to discuss how they overcame the violent bullying they received at school, struggling with their gender identity and how they found their true-selves through drag.

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Stonewall: www.stonewall.org.uk

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Producer: Ben Mitchell

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