Welcome to another powerful episode of Lawyers Have Souls Too with your host, Winnie Jean-Pierre. In this conversation, Winnie sits down with retired Circuit Court Judge Sarah Zabel, who spent 16 years on the bench before starting her own dispute resolution practice. Together, they dive deep into the hidden emotional toll of the legal profession, the realities of family court, and the urgent importance of mental health. Judge Zabel shares stories of children caught in custody battles, the struggles lawyers face behind closed doors, and her own personal journey navigating trauma, resilience, and faith. If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to stand tall in the courtroom while carrying life’s toughest battles outside of it—this episode will move you, challenge you, and remind you of the humanity behind the robe and the briefcase.

👉 Honest. Raw. Real. Because Lawyers Have Souls Too.