Steven and Erika are joined by a couch interloper! Annette Wierstra provides a slightly new-Whoish perspective on this, the origin of the Cybermen. We also chat about the series 10 finale and the trailer for the 2017 Christmas special.

It’s a truly momentous episode. We have completed the William Hartnell era, and the timing is perfect to tie in with the current series. Just…wow.

Host Erika Ensign and Steven Schapansky with Annette Wierstra