Welcome to Lead Now the pod cast of the Texas Baptist Center for effective leadership. With the economy logging and church budget plem(?) more of you have found it difficult to find full time ministry position. Others of you have mentioned that things at your church are just particularly difficult right now. When times are tough and no door seem to open it can be easy to begin to question God's calling in our life. This week Dennis Horton associate director of ministry guidance at Baler University is with us to help us explore this question. Thanks for joining us Dennis. Good to be here. Dennis you work with a lot of students and young ministers who are exploring their calling. When you hear ministers struggling to understand their calling in the midst of difficult circumstances what advice would you give them. Ministry leadership is rarely easy. Sometime it is extremely difficult. During these times of extreme difficulty ministers may wonder