The ultimate leadership quality; knowing the difference between the mirror and the pane of glass.

It's simple - when things are going wrong, use the mirror to look internally and see what you can do better as a leader.

When things are going well, look through the pane of glass at all the people making it happen. Laura Jenner put's it more eloquently than that.

As a leader Laura opens up about vulnerability, giving team the time, space & protection to thrive, and we hear about airplane mode. Very cool.

I loved hearing about the Wonder Woman Conference, how the ITV board is 50% male/female, and the massive transformation project that's going on; turning our favourite old tapes into digital format.

And that's only half of the conversation.

Thanks Laura.