In this episode of the Lead to Win podcast, Jabin Chavez joins Pastor Jeff to talk about the real cost of leadership at the next level. From public success and private pressure to unmet expectations and pushback, this conversation gets honest about what happens when expansion exposes your internal health.

New levels bring new devils.
New influence brings new responsibility.
And if you’re not healthy, growth will reveal it.

Jabin shares practical wisdom on leading through criticism, building the right team, embracing spiritual maturity, and staying grounded when momentum increases. If you’re building something meaningful — in ministry, business, or leadership — this episode will challenge you to focus not just on growth, but on depth.

Because the question isn’t how big you can grow.
It’s how healthy you are when you get there.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Public Success, Private Strain
1:45 - Vegas Church Plant And Building Miracle
5:55 - From Youth Pastor To Senior Leader
9:50 - Discernment, Timing, And Wise Counsel
14:35 - COVID Shock: Becoming A Leader
18:30 - Casting Vision And Inviting People In
23:20 - Growth Surges And Unmet Expectations
28:40 - Clarity Of Vision Over Crowd Noise
33:10 - Designing Spaces For Connection
36:50 - Filtering Feedback And Inputs
41:20 - Tribe, Comparison, And Security
45:10 - Rhythm Over Balance For Sustainability
49:20 - Managing Time, Systems, And Sermons

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What if the key to leading with clarity isn’t found in a strategy—but in stillness?

In this powerful episode of Lead to Win, Pastor Jeff sits down with Pastor Jim Lafoon to unpack one of the most important disciplines for any leader: learning to hear the voice of God. From real-life crisis moments to daily decisions, Jim shares how practicing quietness before the pressure comes prepares you to stand strong when it does.

You’ll hear practical wisdom on discerning God’s voice, building a reflex of prayer, cultivating a culture of intercession around your leadership, and why “dialogue is your birthright.” Whether you’re a pastor, business leader, parent, or team builder, this conversation will challenge you to pause, quiet your soul, and give God space to lead you.

If you want to win at what matters most, it starts by learning to listen.

TIMESTAMPS
6:21 - From Monologue To Dialogue With God
11:41 - Sense God Before You Hear God
18:22 - Training To Hear Under Pressure
26:04 - Signs Of A Spreading Revival
27:06 - Posture: Repentance, Holiness, Prayer

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What if the thing holding your leadership back isn’t strategy… but your soul?

In this episode, Pastor Jeff sits down with Pastor Steve Robinson to unpack Soul Leadership—how trauma and chronic stress reshape the brain, why leaders get triggered, and how healthy leaders build healthy teams. You’ll learn the difference between self-leadership and soul leadership, why unprocessed pain turns into unhealthy patterns, and how God can bring you from fragmentation to wholeness.

If you’re a pastor, leader, or team builder trying to finish well, this conversation will give you language, tools, and hope.

TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Why Soul Leadership Matters
4:25 - The Book’s Big Idea And Audience
8:40 - Katrina, Burnout, And Hitting The Wall
11:30 - The Soul Leadership Cycle
14:20 - Self Leadership vs Soul Leadership
20:00 - Saul’s Wounds, Shame, And Control
29:20 - Moses Triggered: Accusation And Delay
34:20 - Building Resilience Before Crisis
41:00 - You Can’t Pray Trauma Away

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Honor isn’t outdated—it’s essential. In this episode of Lead to Win, Pastor Jeff Little sits down with Earl McClellan to explore why honor is one of the most overlooked—and most powerful—forces in leadership today.

They unpack how honor shapes culture, strengthens trust, and determines whether teams thrive or fracture under pressure. You’ll hear practical insights on leading with humility, honoring people even when it’s difficult, and building environments where respect fuels growth.

This conversation will challenge the way you lead—and remind you why honor always matters.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Cold Open And Defining Friendship
2:56 - The Box Lunch Revival Story
5:10 - Laughter, Men’s Event, And Influence
9:20 - Parenting Wisdom And Roles At Home
13:15 - Culture Over Strategy And Tone
19:30 - Receiving Honor Without Pride
25:05 - Laying Down Crowns And Guardrails
30:40 - Jesus-Centered Leadership And Discipleship
36:20 - Seeds Of Honor From A Single-Mom Story
42:10 - Formative Years As An Executive Pastor
48:05 - Timing, Submission, And Leaving Well
54:40 - The Real Test: Character Over Platform
1:01:20 - Biggest Surprise Of Senior Leadership
1:07:10 - Growth, Grit, And Eternal Stakes
1:14:00 - Humor, Style, And Closing Commitments

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What an honor it was to sit down with Brooke Ligertwood at this year's Leaders Gathering.  In this conversation, she shares her personal story of encountering God through worship, why she believes worship is first and foremost for God’s glory, and how a life rooted in Scripture and prayer shapes everything we offer publicly. Together, Pastor Jeff & Brooke explore the partnership between pastors and worship leaders, the importance of stewarding people well, and how cultivating a strong inner life sustains long-term leadership.

This episode is powerful, we promise you aren't going to want to miss it! Whether you’re a pastor, worship leader, or ministry leader, this conversation will encourage you to lead with depth, humility, and devotion to Jesus.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - From Conference To Conversation
0:54 - Worship’s Purpose And Brooke’s Conversion
3:37 - Songs That Carry Theology
6:16 - Writing From Scripture And Warfare
8:16 - A Generational Vision For Worship
10:23 - Pastoring Worship Teams Well
12:25 - Teaching The Hidden Life
15:31 - Guarding The Stage And Hearts
16:20 - Closing Thanks And Subscriber Ask

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In this episode, Pastor Jeff Little and Pastor Mark Francey dive deep into the process behind every leader’s breakthrough—from the decades of formation you don’t see to the moments of obedience that unlock supernatural authority. Pastor Mark reveals why being sent is different than simply going, how leaders can minister to high-capacity people, and why rushing your calling can do more harm than good.

If you’ve ever wondered when to move, how to wait, or what spiritual authority really looks like, this conversation will bring clarity, courage, and faith for your next step.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Redefining Riches And Pastoral Value
8:20 - Calling To Pastor The “Up And Out”
15:20 - Oceans Church Origin Story
27:00 - Vision, Dream, And Statewide Baptisms
37:00 - Timing, Process, And Being Sent

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What does it really mean to win? Pastor Jeff sits down with Pastor Jacob Aranza to talk about hidden character, spiritual fathers, breaking generational patterns, walking through the loss of a child, and why true success means winning in faith, family, and legacy—not just on a financial or ministry scoreboard.

TIMESTAMPS
4:50 - Redefining True Success
9:50 - The Five Containers Of Life
14:50 - From National Speaker To Local Pastor
17:40 - Jacob’s Origin Story
22:30 - Saved By Jesus, Shaped By Church
28:40 - Honoring Spiritual Fathers
33:20 - Breaking Generational Patterns
38:20 - Foundations That Survive Storms
43:20 - Winning At Home
48:00 - Daily Practices That Anchor Family
52:30 - Name, Claim, And Bless Your Children

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Every young person is searching for identity, belonging, and purpose—but they can’t find it alone. In this episode, Pastor Jeff Little sits down with Next Gen pastor Drew Nguyen to unpack what today’s students really need from the leaders who guide them. 

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Present, Not Perfect Parenting
3:28 - Setting The Next Gen Focus
4:41 - Scale With Heart: Youth Numbers
5:37 - A Youth Pastor’s Origin Story
9:15 - Finding Family In The Church
12:27 - From Brokenness To Belonging
14:16 - Programs Don’t Raise Sons And Daughters
17:02 - Multi‑Generational Discipleship In Action
19:06 - Five Core Values For Kids
22:08 - Don’t Wait To Be Great
24:08 - Pressures, Options, And Anxiety
26:17 - A Hunger For God Among Students
28:21 - Templates: Retreats, Camps, Super Series
32:16 - Identity, Purity, And Affirmation
35:02 - Evangelism That Mobilizes Students
38:24 - Parent The Heart, Not Performance
42:04 - Be Emotionally Present

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In this powerful episode of Lead to Win, Pastor Jeff Little sits down with leadership legend Dr. Sam Chand for an honest and deeply practical conversation about what real growth requires—and why so many leaders stall before they reach their potential.

TIMESTAMPS
2:16 - Leadership is Who You Are
4:34 - Systems, Scale, and Honest Self-Assessment
8:46 - Hunger, Curiosity, and Capacity
11:55 - Imagination as a Leadership Muscle
16:40 - When-and-Then Thinking Stifles Vision
19:40 - Wins You’ll Never See
22:30 - Growth Equals Pain Framework
27:40 - Playing to Win vs. Not to Lose
31:40 - Control the Uncontrollables: Grow Yourself
35:20 - Questions that Unlock Imagination
39:10 - Comfort vs. Growth: Choosing Forward

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Jeff Little and Dino Rizzo reveal how a serving posture fuels real growth. Learn to start with what you have, partner wisely, “see the one,” and build a culture where compassion multiplies. It’s not about bigger buildings—it’s about a bigger heart. Use these practical plays with your team now!

TIMESTAMPS
2:20 - Humble Beginnings and Early Ministry Stories
3:20 - A Burden for Single Moms Takes Shape
5:05 - From One Act of Kindness to Scalable Service
7:05 - Bigger Buildings of Bigger Love?
10:15 - Designing a Gathering to Build Leaders
12:25 - Serve Day Impact & Community Partners
15:05 - Outreach Starts with What You Have
18:05 - Understanding Your City's Needs
25:00 - Is The Church Healthy Right now?
28:00 - Global Signs of Renewal and Hope
31:00 - Lift Up Your Eyes: Regaining Perspective

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