In this episode of Reimagining Cyber, we break down the key findings from the 2025 Cybersecurity Staff Compensation Benchmark Report from the Institute for Applied Network Security (IANS).

Host Ben sits down with Rob Aragao (Chief Security Strategist, OpenText) to explore why over 50% of cybersecurity professionals just below the CISO level are considering a job change—and it’s not just about burnout or pay.
From leadership bottlenecks and role creep to uncertainty around organizational change, we dive into what’s really driving attrition in cyber teams and what CISOs can do to keep their top talent engaged and growing.

🎧 Topics covered:

• Why CISOs are staying put—and how that’s impacting the next layer of leadership
• What’s fueling dissatisfaction below the CISO level
• Non-monetary retention strategies that actually work
• The evolving career path of cybersecurity professionals

If you lead a cyber team—or plan to—this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

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