Join me as I chat with Ruby Martin, an ECE Program Leader from Pennsylvania with over 30 years of experience in training educators. Ruby shares her love for investing in our children and their promising future. Ruby expresses the importance of allowing children to "figure it out" and encouraging them to "get their hands dirty." I thank Ruby for sharing her journey to leadership and for her inspirational story that highlight Teacher Tom, Peter Gray, and Loris Malaguzzi for educators everywhere. Keep up the good work and don't give up!