In this hosts-only leadership roundtable, the SaviTalk crew gets personal. Jim Routh, David Lee, Simon Gooch, and Henrique Teixeira unpack how they actually ended up in identity, from sports science and history majors to accidental CISOs and early IAM consulting days.

The conversation moves from career detours to bigger questions facing the industry: how people really learn, why communication and curiosity matter more than certifications, and what data science, identity, and AI mean for the next generation of security leaders.

Candid, funny, and opinionated, this episode is about the human side of identity security — the paths, mistakes, and mindset shifts that shape leaders long before job titles do.

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