In this conversation, Rick discusses his journey in balancing school and work while exploring various leadership styles. He reflects on his experiences with different leadership theories, particularly transformational and transactional leadership, and shares insights on what he aims to achieve through his studies. The dialogue also touches on the importance of trust in leadership, the application of SWOT analysis, and personal aspirations in management roles. In this conversation, Rick and KP Brown delve into various themes surrounding leadership, personal development, and the challenges of goal-setting. They discuss the importance of teaching leadership through experiences like WoodBadge and the complexities of SMART goals, particularly in relation to ADHD. The conversation shifts to the significance of mindset in achieving goals, emphasizing that failure is a part of the journey. KP shares insights from his martial arts background, explaining how it informs his approach to communication and connection. They also touch on the elements of leadership and the concept of unconscious competence. The discussion concludes with KP's efforts in fundraising for a documentary, highlighting the storytelling aspect of their project and the formula for success.