On this bonus episode, I have the honor of having Manfred Kets de Vries as my guest, one of the most prolific and provocative management thinkers of our time. Over the next hour we discuss topics such as how ethics education begins in the home,  leadership in politics, discovery and acceptance of the shadow self, Manfred's new book Leadership Unhinged, Essays on the Ugly, The Bad, and The Weird. We explore the question are we are greatest worst enemy? How is it possible that incompetent authoritarian leadership exists in democratic societies, and wrap with Manfred's thoughts on wise leadership.