Eric McNulty, the Associate Director of The National Preparedness Leadership Institute at Harvard, talks us through the difference between “Leadership” and “Management,” specifically in the context of dealing with a crisis. He also discusses the importance of Meta-Leadership, relationship negotiation, and how leaders can become a bottleneck in a crisis (and how to avoid this).

McNulty spent over a decade traveling the U.S. towards the center of crises (Deepwater Horizon oil spill, Hurricane Sandy, Boston Marathon bombings, COVID-19). He explains the evolution of leadership from the days of hunting and gathering, to farming, to the present day, and he shares with us where he believes leadership is headed.