In this episode of the Pound for Pound Leadership Podcast, Pastor Mike Kai sits down with his longtime friend, Pastor Jared Ming of Higher Vision Church, for a raw and timely conversation. They talk about: - The tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk and its ripple effect on the church and culture - How to shepherd people through grief, trauma, and offense - Why offense is one of the greatest traps keeping believers from receiving God's truth - The role of the Holy Spirit when our hearts are wounded - What revival could look like in this generation This is not a polished studio conversation—it's real, unfiltered, and happening in the wake of national grief. You'll hear both pastors share personal stories, biblical wisdom, and pastoral insight for how we can stand strong in faith during times of shaking. 👉 Get Mike's new book, Blow Your Mind: [Amazon link] 👉 Register for the free Blow Your Mind Webinar: [Webinar link] If this conversation speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a comment, and share it with a leader or friend who needs encouragement today.