In this finale episode, Aga Gajownik is joined by Denise Shillito, founder of Purple Circle and former CHRO, to close out the season with the perspective of someone who has spent decades in the room where the decisions actually get made.

A conversation about what it actually takes to lead through AI transformation, and why the organisations getting it right are asking fundamentally different questions than everyone else.

Topics include:

Why starting with the shiny tool instead of the real problem leads to failures in AI transformation

The centaur and reverse centaur world and which one we're building towards

Burnout as a systemic problem, not an individual one, and what leaders are getting wrong

AI agents in the team: what guardrails, data ownership and psychological safety actually look like

How IKEA and Unilever turned AI adoption into growth without defaulting to headcount cuts

What a CHRO should do first when an AI rollout isn't working

Psychological safety in practice: what it actually looks like for leaders who build it

Why AI is not the answer for everything and how to know when it isn't

This episode is especially relevant for CHROs, CTOs and senior leaders navigating AI transformation, people leaders designing change programmes that actually stick, and anyone who has watched a well intentioned technology rollout quietly break a team.

This is the final episode of the Innotainment Podcast. Next week, it becomes something new.

Links mentioned in this episode:

⁠Denise Shillito⁠ — Founder, ⁠Purple Circle⁠

⁠Aga Gajownik⁠ – Certified ADHD Practitioner and founder of Innovation Integration

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