Listen in on the second-half of a conversation between Sumona and Matthew McCarthy, former CEO of Ben & Jerry's and Unilever executive of 25+ years. Matthew will continue to talk about power, purpose and privilege and offer his perspective on what the world needs now from leaders.

He'll share moments that tested his leadership, how he listened with curiosity and empathy as he learned about topics that were foreign to him but so deeply important to those he led, and reminds us to see our roles as leaders to be a privilege and a gift, rather than a burden on our time. The conversation may shape how you think about leading people moving forward.