We gonna have to disagree with Dr. Umar on this take. Narrowing it down his take was one-sided, but the point is if we stop and listen to each other, it creates more opportunity to understand and learn more about someone’s intentions. Umar is also a human, so he has ability to give some bad perspectives. Check out the episode on the YouTube channel, YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND US https://www.youtube.com/live/1HmXjguhaKg?si=-dvvpBujBZ8DTQYf