Josh Cirre, a developer advocate and content creator, joins Kent to discuss his talk at Epic Web Conf: "Learning-Driven Development." Josh shares his philosophy on learning by doing—where the best way to master new technologies is by applying them to real-world projects rather than passively consuming tutorials.

Josh and Kent discuss:

• The importance of curiosity in learning and how small observations can spark deeper exploration.
• Why focusing on what you want to build rather than what you want to learn leads to better retention.
• The challenges of transitioning from acting and comedy to tech, and how performance skills translate into developer advocacy.
• The power of in-person conferences in forging deeper relationships and improving professional growth.

Josh also shares his love for Svelte, cameras, music, and Broadway musicals—so be sure to find him at Epic Web Conf to geek out on any of those topics!

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Guest: Josh Cirre

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• Website: joshcirre.com

Host: Kent C. Dodds

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