"It's not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward."  That, according to Rocky Balboa, is how winning is done, and that's exactly what Karl Watkin has had to experience during his decades in business, both in Britain and across the globe. From spending millions in the 90s, missing out on near-billion-pound deals in the noughties to being declared bankrupt in the 2010s, Karl is now taking a new outlook on life, both professionally and personally. In this vibrant episode, Gary chats to Karl about his successes, his failures, and the lessons learnt along the way.

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