What happens when God calls you into worship ministry and you can’t sing or play? We sit down with Matthew Harris of Gateway Church to trace a path forged by obedience, curiosity, and a lot of unglamorous reps.

We talk leading the next generation.  We dive into the power of safe places to fail for young leaders, especially in high-expectation environments. Matthew shares how asking better questions, inviting mentors close, and building a working knowledge of tech created confidence without ego.

We talk songwriting.  He treats songs like arrows—each with an intended purpose—freeing him from chasing reach and centering the joy on creating with God. Some songs stay private; others wait years for their moment.

We talk staying healthy in ministry.  Matthew outlines practical boundaries, weekly calendar audits, and partnering with leadership and HR to stay healthy. The goal is simple and hard: arrive on Sunday full, not empty. Keep the main thing the main thing—pastor people to Jesus, model it without hype, and choose the “uncool” move if it serves the room. 

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The Worship Table is a sacred space for worship pastors and creative leaders—a place of rest, renewal, and real connection. Just as the Lord’s Table welcomes all, this Table exists to refresh those who pour out week after week. Through mentorship, shared experiences, and deep community, we invite you to step away from isolation and into a space of belonging, encouragement, and growth. You don’t have to lead alone—there is a place for you here.

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