Church conversations around atheism are complicated enough. Add in being black in the American church, and going through the most unimaginable loss and pain you can imagine in life, and you have the holy trifecta of church awkwardness and discomfort. The church doesn't always have good answers to tough questions, but in the midst of all this, our guest today stands strong and has a vision for a brighter future. He has hope, but not necessarily centered where you might assume.

Join us as we chat with Robert Monson about moving from atheism to faith, liberation theology and being black in America, and how the tragic loss of his two young boys changed his life forever. Listen up!