A conversation with former Christian worship band member, David Testa, as he shares insights about his journey into and out of Christianity. The conversation touches on problems with Christian concepts of hell and salvation, connections between Christianity and codependency, childhood trauma, narcissism, addiction, etc., surviving existential+identity crises, and current spiritual beliefs. We opened more cans of worms than we could fully digest, so keep an eye out for future episodes where we will be getting together again to dive deeper into some of these topics.

Recorded at David Testa's home recording studio in Seattle, WA, on March 19, 2023.

Intro/Outro song: "River" by David Testa, used with permission. Single to be released soon. Listen to more music by David Testa at www.testamusic.com

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