Welsh Government deputy minister Lee Waters MS has developed a reputation for speaking his mind and in this episode he does just that. In a wide-ranging conversation, we cover everything from economic 'sexy talk', the nationalisation of Welsh rail services, the realities of a post-COVID world and the reasons why Welsh Labour should positively engage in the conversations about independence.

You can find Lee on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/Amanwy

And, of course, Hiraeth here: https://twitter.com/HiraethBlog

If you're enjoying the Hiraeth pod, please like and subscribe on your podcast player of choice to receive the next episode automatically.