Jeremiah Johnson, cofounder of The Center for New Liberalism and host of The New Liberal Podcast, joins Radio Abundance to discuss the politics of Abundance on the Right and the Left. We talk about the Republican Civil War between MAGA and the Tech Right, who opposes Abundance on the Left and why, and what the future holds for Progressive Abundance as a winning campaign message.

Along the way, this episode is packed with literary references, from Chinese proverbs to Paradise Lost to Greek Mythology, plus a special cameo from Sean Astin, who plays Samwise Gamgee from The Lord of the Rings, giving a special rendition of Samwise's epic rallying call. "It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo! The ones that really mattered..."

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